Medley Speculation and Tour de Lance Update
World Champs: United States Medley Relay Poses Interesting Possibilities
By John Lohn
Which combination of 4 would y'all like to see? Phelpsies don't hurt me but I'm kind of hoping for the team of Peirsol/Hansen/Crocker/Lezak. I'm fickle though - just ask Lance Armstrong. I've dumped him for Dave Zabriskie after reading Dave's online journal. You've gotta love a shy boy with a wicked sense of humor. I wonder if we could talk Brendan into doing some of those one question interviews at Worlds.
By John Lohn
PHILADELPHIA, Penn., USA, July 1. THE invincibility of the United States men in the 400-meter medley relay is unquestionable. In Olympic action, the Stars and Stripes has never been beaten, with the only gold not won by America going to Australia in 1980. That was the year the U.S. boycotted the Moscow Games, thanks to Jimmy Carter.
With history serving as support, then, the U.S. is the overwhelming favorite to take gold in the final event at this month's World Championships in Montreal. Considering the improbability of the U.S. being challenged, it's more intriguing to look at which athletes will swim the event. Basically, we're looking at five men for four spots.
Barring any unforeseen developments, the first two legs of the medley relay are locked up. With Aaron Peirsol (backstroke) and Brendan Hansen (breaststroke) sitting as reigning world-record holders, the States has an opening punch that is devastating. But, how will the final two legs shape up? That's where the intrigue surfaces.
On the fly leg, the U.S. will go with either Ian Crocker, the world-record holder, or Michael Phelps, the Olympic champion. The decision will hinge, to a degree, on the result of the 100 fly final. If Crocker wins the event and clinches the relay slot, Phelps could still find action as the anchor. For Phelps to earn the hammer slot, he would - likely - have to defeat Jason Lezak in the 100 freestyle. Lezak, of course, is the American-record holder in the 100 free and a staple on the U.S. medley relay.
However, if Phelps wins the fly, he would have - presumably - control of the fly leg on the relay, thus leaving Lezak as the man for the anchor role. Regardless of what transpires, one high-level performer will be watching the final. Yet, the Americans appear to be positioned well and should have little trouble maintaining their dominance.
Which combination of 4 would y'all like to see? Phelpsies don't hurt me but I'm kind of hoping for the team of Peirsol/Hansen/Crocker/Lezak. I'm fickle though - just ask Lance Armstrong. I've dumped him for Dave Zabriskie after reading Dave's online journal. You've gotta love a shy boy with a wicked sense of humor. I wonder if we could talk Brendan into doing some of those one question interviews at Worlds.




29 Comments:
Ian! Ian! Ian! ;)
Obviously. Hee-hee. Although on the way to work today, I was thinking it might be kind of interesting to see an Aaron/Brendan/Ian/Michael relay, just because I'd like to see how that would turn out, since Michael doesn't have as much experience as the other three in swimming relays together. But, on the other hand, I want to see the Lezak because that team works together so well.
But, as long as Ian's there (and he wins the fly) I'm happy. :)
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Shannen, at 7/05/2005 2:09 PM
personally, i could care less if Big Bird swam anchor as long as the trio is together again.
that Dave Zabriskie is a hoot... the mormon comment had me laughing pretty hard.
Anna- are you still watching TDF? Kate and I are forced to "refresh" to get updates online...God forbid anyone in my office changes the channel away from MSNBC for two minutes...
and btw- michelle, the front page is also a riot - the one with brendan with shades on - that face!! precious.
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swimphilly78, at 7/05/2005 2:26 PM
Great layout!
Well, I'm a traditional girl, so I'd hate to see the almighty relay separated. So Aaron/Pumpkin/the Scruff/Lezak is my choice... not that the US Coach matters what I have to say.
On total unrelated news, I did OK on my test so ever since last Sunday I'm oficially an archery judge. Archer, judge and organizer... beats me how I'm gonna pull that one.
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Lena, at 7/05/2005 2:36 PM
Great aricle John!
I'd like to see Lezak and Ian on the relay...but who ever is faster deserves it.
Thanks for the link to DZ's site Michelle. I love it!
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Kate, at 7/05/2005 2:39 PM
Y'all be sure to check out the Z's Point page of the website. Scroll down to MAIN-TAINT-ANCE. HAAAAAA!
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Michelle, at 7/05/2005 2:40 PM
Trio + Lezak is the way to be yo. And I think that the coaches should listen to me because the relay will be on my birthday, and that would be the best present, um, ever. :)
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Sarah, at 7/05/2005 3:09 PM
Dave,you have won my heart with all the advice on maintaining your...ummm...area. Love ya. Call me.
Of course it should be the trio + lezak. Why would you want to mess up a good thing? I like Mike and all but I think if the formula is right,you shouldn't change it.
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blairbecky, at 7/05/2005 3:24 PM
As the head representative to the Phelpsies with major trio love (just ask Mr.H I almost got sliced for my shirt at trials!) I still have to say the trio+ Lezak is sick and ridiculous. Was it Bob Bowman who said "you could have a donkey anchor with the three Texas boys and they would still win." Well, last time I checked Jason wasn't a donkey, rather a super fast man. There is my vote, sorry Mikey. Is that a tear in your eye I see? Don't cry, I will comfort you! *wink*
And now I am back to reality (well sort of as much as I can be!)I completely missed my class today. I thought I had a week off between sessions but nope! First day of class and I miss it. I'm really off to a great start. I hope Brendan is doing better in his class then I am!
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Kimberly, at 7/05/2005 4:06 PM
HAA! Did Bowman really say that! I love it...and it's so true. The trio is amazing, and they all swim in AUSTIN. I can't stand it. Im moving immediately.
Kimmy: don't worry, nothing happens on the first day anyways. You will do awesome this summer in your class. ;o)
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Kate, at 7/05/2005 4:09 PM
I don't think they should just go by who wins the final. The trio has more experience starting off of each other...I just think that is something they should take into consideration....and Jason has been swimming this relay since at least 2003. I vote for trio+Jason= WR (just one more time...when we are all there in person to see it happen)!!!
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Aunt K, at 7/05/2005 4:25 PM
Swimphilly i'm definitely still watching TDF! i almost teared up a little today when Lance set off on his last team time trial.
DZ's journal is hilarious, i do like him more now, but no one could ever beat out my love for Lance.
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Anna, at 7/05/2005 4:34 PM
Stupid thunderstorm taking out the power and my post. I agree with everyone regarding the relay....why mess with success.
I think Dave Zabriskie is awesome. His dry responses to the reporters were hilarious. My personal favorite was learning that he slept in the buff :-) I can't wait to watch the footage tonight to see what happened. And yay for Lance and Team Discovery!
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Alison, at 7/05/2005 4:44 PM
Well, my love for Crocker is unwavering. so, i want Ian on the relay for sure. I am torn on whether or not I would like to see Lezak or Phelps on the anchor.
Jason is awesome and superfast but Phelps is too..that goes without saying. I guess whoever wins the 100 free gets my vote...but i would like to second Shannen by saying
Ian!Ian!Ian!
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jenny, at 7/05/2005 4:56 PM
Well, deja vu. :) The swimmers with the fastest times should be on the relay, unless they personally decide not to be.
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Verbal, at 7/05/2005 5:29 PM
Jason is awesome and superfast but Phelps is too..that goes without saying. I guess whoever wins the 100 free gets my vote...but i would like to second Shannen by saying
Ian!Ian!Ian!
Yep--that's kind of what I'm thinking for sure.
But, no matter what, if Ian doesn't make the relay, I'll be in the stands sobbing and wailing. Not even Brendan offering to come out and swim the relay in his purple speedo would be able to console me!
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Shannen, at 7/05/2005 5:32 PM
My objective: I'd love to see a record. I think that P-H-C-Phelps maxes that chance. Not taking anything away from Jason Lezak, who is world-class by any standard, but watching MP is watching legend unfold. They will be talking about him in 30 years, in the same breath as they talk about Brendan and Aaron and Ian, so let's see them all together. :) This is, in some meaningful ways, the golden age of swimming.
I would be not shocked at all if we saw P-H-Phelps-Lezak. I think the probability of that might be higher than P-H-C-Phelps. I wonder what John thinks.
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Dana Cara, at 7/05/2005 6:10 PM
Hmmm my opinion on that is
IAAAN! IAAAN! IAAAN! NO MATTER WHAT!
because we all know that if even if michael wins the 100 fly, ian is faster and he would do better in the relay than michael!
As for the anchor, im not really sure because i kind of want Jason Lezak to swim it because he's the USA's sprinter and hes been in that relay for so long and the relay it has always been Aaron,Brendan, Ian and Jason but im still a michael phelps fan and i kind of want him to swim the relay but i think hes swimming 2 more relays so if something happens he should give Jason the opportunity to swim!
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alxcar6, at 7/05/2005 7:01 PM
I would be not shocked at all if we saw P-H-Phelps-Lezak. I think the probability of that might be higher than P-H-C-Phelps.
*sniff-sniff* Noo! Don't say that! ;)
Don't get me wrong--I think Michael is amazing, and I want to see him win every race he's entered in...except the 100 fly. That's Ian's race, and I want to see him own it!
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Shannen, at 7/05/2005 7:10 PM
Oh this is such a big question.
SKIP to the end to avoid the rant.
How is Crockah swimming these days. He is bigger, bulkier, training a little differently judging by his arms and chest.. Well he looks a little bigger to me. If he is fast and comes second only to Mike, he would still be my favortite for the relay because he is on a team with Aaron and Brendan and those guys obviously feel each other. They pass off to each other without missing a beat. I think Mike is amazing and a miraculous athlete, but I think those three fit together so well.
Now the Lezak/ Phelps debate. Jason, people. Jason is fast, yo. In Santa Clara I was screaming my head off for Jason to win that race.. Everyone else was "GO MICHEAL!" Please! Imagine if the Crockah had that many people cheering him on to win in Athens. The media makes you feel that if you cheer for someone other than Michael that you are wasting time. Jason is the greatest American Sprinter. He is amazing in that distance. Yes, Hall is fast too, but he aint playing. I feel that if Mike wins the 100m free..... it is a fluke, he is great but Jason is more consitsant at that distance. So I say lets have the "Sick Relay" as long as we can. Michael has a very full program at worlds. And I expect him to kick some ass and come away as the winner of the meet. But I hope that these guys win their specializations so that there is no question about who should or should not be in the relay.
Jason, Crockah, Bren-bear and Aar-bear.
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lala, at 7/05/2005 10:02 PM
How is Crockah swimming these days.
Well, he was a little slower then Phelps--Phelps swam a 52.74 at Santa Clara in the 100 fly, and that same weekend Ian swam a 54.43 in the 100 fly at the Texas Senior Circuit meet. But, I don't think that's any reason to worry. Phelps is probably at a different stage of his training, since he's had to prepare for a few larger meets like Stanford and Santa Clara since Trials and Ian's seems to have mainly been preparing for Worlds. So I think by the time Worlds roll around, Ian will be faster than he was at the Texas meet for sure.
Of course, that could just be the Ian bias in me talking. ;)
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Shannen, at 7/05/2005 10:33 PM
Humm, this is a hard one for me. I say it might be best to wait until Montreal before commenting.
I mean, we want a relay that can win. If Crocker and Lezak are on, you can bet that Phelps will be nowhere near that relay. That said, if either falter or are having a less-than-stellar meet, Mikey has a chance to get the call. That said, Lezak and Crocker didn't have an easy time of it in Athens, and Coach Reese went with both of them. Coach Reese is one smart man, and I am just an armchair coach.
So I say that most likely we will see the "Sick Relay" kick some behind in Montreal, in its original Athens'line-up glory. Plain and simple, they are consistent!
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mk391419, at 7/05/2005 10:53 PM
Well, seeing as the Athens foursome inspired me to get my own butt back in the pool, I'd love to see that combo again. Further, I think that team blew everyone away in Athens. Up until then all we'd heard about the Trio in the media was the melodrama surrounding Aaron's notta-DQ, the infamous dolphin kick, and Ian swimming sick or whatever during the 100 free. Other than that it was the Phelps Show. (in men's, anyway.) And then those same boys bounced back from all the ::drama:: (TM Michelle) to rock the house. Without Phelps. So, in my heart of hearts, I want to see them again.
But, sport is sport, and may the fastest person earn his spot. Phelps is a phenom, and I will cheer my brains out for him if he earns a spot on that relay, he deserves that much. But on the last day of competition, when Phelps has swum his myriad of events, I think well-rested may trump it all. Advantage Crocker and Lezak.
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crackinup, at 7/05/2005 11:29 PM
Off the topic, but darn--looks like NYC got eliminated in the first round of voting for the 2012 Olympics. It would have been nice to have them here in the US again.
Guess this also means Thorpe is definitely retiring in 2008.
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Shannen, at 7/06/2005 6:00 AM
I thought about this some more and I'm convinced that Micheal wants to anchor the relay. He is putting alot of his focus on free lately so I think it will end up being Aaraon,Bren,Ian and Mike. If I remember correctly in Indy Bob said something like "Just win the 100 free then." I assumed he was saying this in regards to the relay but you know what they say about assuming. I still want the trio + lezak though. :(
Hmmm...London. Haven't been there before...lol. *runs off to start a savings account*
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blairbecky, at 7/06/2005 7:35 AM
If I remember correctly in Indy Bob said something like "Just win the 100 free then." I assumed he was saying this in regards to the relay but you know what they say about assuming.
That's what I thought when I overheard that as well. Because before Trials, Michael had been indicating that he wasn't going to swim the 100 fly at Worlds. Then he qualified and said he decided he wanted to swim it at Worlds, but that Bob didn't want him to so Michael was working to convince Bob that he should swim it. Then we overheard Bob and Michael talking in the hotel lobby, then the next day Michael announced that he'd swim everything he qualified for.
So I can't help but think what we heard was Michael working on Bob, and I have to think Michael probably used the argument of "But I *really* want on the final relay" in his attempts to convince Bob. At least, given Bob's reaction, it seems like it anyway.
I guess it all kind of hinges on the 100 free, I suppose. Is that earlier in the week? If Phelps wins that, I figure they'd put Ian on the fly leg no matter what happens in the 100 fly race.
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Shannen, at 7/06/2005 8:18 AM
I'll agree with Crack, in the fact that well rested swimmers are a must for a relay. And personally, my opinion is that yes, usually the fastest swimmer should swim the relay leg. But let's face it, the US pretty much has this nailed... unless they face DSQ, you guys are unbeatable. And the difference between the swimmer that wins the individual race and the one that comes second (Mike/Ian; Mike/Jason, or how it turns out to be) cannot be that much. We saw it at Athens... it was almost nothing.
So, taken that in the account that times are almost the same and that even if, the time difference won't make a difference in a race that would probably be won for much more than that specific time difference, I think it's best to priorize a strong, solid relay that already knows its way around the other. We saw it in Athens, we saw at Indy... perfect timing. The Sick Relay knows perfectly, by memory, how the other touches the wall and when to jump. If I were Coach Reese, I'd go with that, b/c I think is a much stronger team.
Of course, I'm not Reese and he knows much more than I do... so whatever he chooses is fine by me (psst... Eddie, pick the sick relay).
That is my humble opinion, as someone that is sitting in the other part of the world and all she cares about is seeing great swimming.
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Lena, at 7/06/2005 12:38 PM
Eddie isn't the World Team coach Lena. Dave Salo will be head coach and Bob Bowman will be an assistant coach.
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Michelle, at 7/06/2005 12:41 PM
Salo knows Aaron and Lezak really well and know their abilitues since he has coached them. And Bowman know Michael and what his abilities are. Looks like Ian is the only unknown. He will have to win to play. I love it that Bren and Aaron are practically given. But at the same time, that seems alot to put on their shoulders.....their shoulders... yumm. Nevermind, they can handle it.
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lala, at 7/06/2005 1:23 PM
Eddie isn't the World Team coach Lena. Dave Salo will be head coach and Bob Bowman will be an assistant coach.
:.blushes.: my bad... well, I think both Salo and Bowman are gonna pick who they considered best for the job.
and lala, I agree... shoulders.
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Lena, at 7/06/2005 2:12 PM
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